You’ve had your phone tapped?
Yeah, yeah I did. For quite some time. Years ago, there was somebody who was gathering 150 hours of top secret testimony specifically for Congressional hearings on government projects and the US secret space program. People from NASA, Rome, the Vatican, you name it, they’re all on there. The top 36 hours that summarized the best parts of all of that footage, I had it hidden in my house for a period of time, and during that time I was flying this person out along with somebody that was Wernher von Braun’s right-hand assistant. Wernher von Braun was a Nazi scientist that we brought over to build our Apollo rockets that got us to the moon, and on his deathbed he told this person a bunch of stuff, and I was flying them out to Los Angeles and we were taking certain meetings. At that time a lot of weird stuff started happening.
Were you concerned about your safety at all?
Partially. Because they do weird stuff. At the time I didn’t know it, but the person I was dealing with was being awoken in the middle of the night with clicking and buzzing noises and falling on the ground vomiting, every morning at 4 a.m. I know now that those are artifacts from mind-control experiments, where the same technology that we use to find oil underground, we can zap somebody at the same frequency that the brain operates on, and it can cause some really horrific things to happen. But I didn’t know this until 10 years later. I got caught in the middle of it, and this was the time when I was on the cover of Rolling Stone, so I think these guys, whoever was running this operation, were like, “What the fuck? How did this kid show up?”
When you first started reading about this stuff and getting more knowledgeable, did you ever try to talk yourself out of it or think, “I must be crazy if I believe that this stuff is real”?
At first I believed everything I read. Then I got to a point where I didn’t believe anything I read. And then I came out of the back of it, saying to myself, “Half of it’s real, half of it’s not.” What people have to understand is the basic history of the UFO is very simple. The phenomenon has been around forever. All the ancient religions were written down based on witnessing this phenomenon in various forms. Governments of the world watched the phenomenon and tried to replicate the technology, but they did in secret. So the governments are fighting each other with these pieces of technology. But within those little skirmishes, the phenomenon is still here, and it’s much more advanced. So in order to hide what the governments are building in secret, they blame it on spaceships and aliens that eat your brains and all this weird stuff, but it’s all in an effort to hide what we’re really building, something that is real but is exotic and esoteric, and it’s all part of a plan. And as we find out that the phenomenon is real, they’re hoping it won’t be as bad as we thought it was, because we were scared along the way. It’s a really complex game that’s been played, especially since the ’80s. The CIA was very interested in the UFO civilian research groups, with the intention of being in control over all the research and the public awareness. It was a psychological operation. They were very scared of Americans being gullible and having Russia come in and repeat a War of the Worlds scenario. So the CIA said, “We better get in there and make everyone go crazy, but at least it’s controlled, and when we’re in charge we can slowly let people know the phenomenon is real, but, ‘Don’t worry — we’ve been building something secret to help protect us.'” It’s a crazy thing, but it’s real.
