SC: And you say free energy. Tesla energy, zero point, that kind of stuff?

AS: Well the energy I know most about is through electro-gravitics but I know there are other methods for drawing on the energy… The dark energy, the zero point energy, the orgone, the radiant energy what Tesla called it. We swim in energy. Everything is energy. Even that quote, “empty space between particles in the atom is not empty. It’s proto-matter.”

I know about electro-gravitics, when we can… When a charge is run across the electrodes and the dielectric… they have certain setups that work better than others. More energy is output in gravitational thrust in the gravitational field that is created, than they used to create that gravitational thrust.

SC: So basically you’re getting a positive…

AS: Positive usable energy out of the system. The area will cool down.

SC: It’s negentropic!

AS: It’s negentropic. Yes. We can draw energy that is negentropic. In my article “The End of Entropy” I quote the key points that I picked up from the book (Jeremy Rifkin reference). There’s like three quotes and he’s an economist. He points out that all money is “stored energy credits.” When I read that I went, ‘alright, now I understand why they suppress free energies so much.’

SC: Absolutely! They have no power after that.

AS- Exactly. It takes them down to having their personal power. Then lifts the rest of us up to our personal power.

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